Making Money: Part 2

Director and Editor Lent 2010 and Easter 2010
1st June 2011

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Joe Clarke is a 1st year Engineer from St. John’s. He runs a hedge fund.

Photo by Siana Bangura

“A hedge fund is a vehicle for High-Net-Worth-Individuals to invest in while the manager has full discretion over how the funds are used. My hedge fund is what is unhelpfully described as a “Convertible Security Arbitrage Fund”. For a person to be allowed to invest in the fund by law they have to conform to a certain criteria, based on net-worth, income or financial knowledge. My minimum investment is $10,000.

“I take offset long and short positions in equity securities and equity derivatives to delta hedge the portfolio and trade the time premium. In layman’s terms you could say that I use statistical techniques to identify inefficiencies in the markets. These inefficiencies can be exploited for profit.

“The idea came to me at school where I was talking about investing with a like minded individual. I explained the strategy to him and he wanted to invest some money with me.

“The strategy of the fund is very low maintenance, so I only need to look at the portfolio once a week. During the holidays I work towards setting up the fund formally (before I took investor’s money by gentleman’s agreement). Keeping in touch with five lawyers, a consultant and a broker takes a significant amount of time, on top of staying versed in regulatory issues and developing the strategy. I read engineering so my schedule is quite structured and I know when I will be working in advance. This means I can fit the time to work on the fund around my degree.

“I make a decent amount of money (five figures), spending a sizeable proportion of the income on food and wine! I’m partial to a meal out and the odd case of wine with friends, but most of the money is reinvested into the fund”

Julia Nicholson studies Russian and Latin and Evie Monnington-Taylor is a Classicist. Both are 2nd years from Clare. They run a milk delivery business called Milk Maids.


“We came up with the idea because we kept running out of milk/people kept stealing it and it just felt like such a long way to Sainsbury’s - especially if you were in the middle of an essay crisis and needed a cup of tea.

“We have a supplier who delivers to the porters’ lodges in Colony (2nd & 3rd years, Clare) and Memorial Court (1st years). We get up at 6am twice a week (in wind, snow, rain etc.) and stick named labels to the bottles, then carry them around to the appropriate fridges. Customers pay on a termly basis (to our business account, ‘Milk Maids’), signing up for eight weeks’ of deliveries.

“We deliver to about 60-70 people, across all years (including some fellows). It costs £7.99 a term for 1 litre of milk, and £13.99 a term for 2 litres. We can deliver skimmed, semi-skimmed and full milk, as well as soya.

“Our profit margins are enough to make it worth our while, but we have kept our milk prices as low as possible. We haven’t actually paid ourselves the money yet, but have kept it in the business. At the end of each term we use our Milk Maids card to buy ourselves a caterpillar cake as payment.

“We are definitely carrying on through exam term, and intend to carry on next year. We have also thought about expanding into other colleges. We haven’t looked into this very seriously yet, but if anyone reading this is keen to help elsewhere we would love to talk to them about it.”

87 Responses to “Making Money: Part 2”

  1. Theo Paphitis says:

    Spunking christ, how I want 51% of your shitty milk venture.

  2. Envy says:

    Is this just "how to make the rest of us feel inadequate"? I would make a snarky comment, but I'm too jealous at the casual "yeah, five figures" comment when I'm still earning £7.25 an hour in my holidays down the local supermarket.
    And during exams as well. Tab, that's just a bit mean.

  3. AlanSugar says:

    Daddy's contribution?

  4. country boy says:

    I dont think John Clarke could have succeeded in sounding like more of an arse.
    Congrats, that takes skill.

  5. Misogyny says:

    So we have a guy who's a part-time hedge-fund manager on five figures and some girls who put milk outside other people's doors for a few pounds and a caterpillar cake? Isn't this exactly what makes feminism such an unlikely ideology?

  6. mike oxlong says:

    "I’m partial to a meal out and the odd case of wine with friends, but most of the money is reinvested into the fund”

    What a twat

  7. Wow. says:

    Julia and Evie sound like lovely, entrepreneurial people.
    Joe Clarke sounds like a privileged twat.

    • great admirer says:

      Joe Clarke, esq. sounds like a true hero, you mean.

    • i agree says:

      rich, pretentious bastard that makes me feel sick

    • Capitalist says:

      Yeah, what a privilege it must be to have an idea and act on it in order to make something out of nothing. Born with a silver spoon etc. Idiot.

    • Judge judge says:

      Would you rather he pissed up his parents' (if it is his parents') money up the wall in Cindies? Fair play to him. Saying that, I could be completely wrong and he could be as much of a tosser as you.

  8. Joe Clarke's Suit says:

    I'm awesome

  9. Jack Bartholomew says:

    I like Joe a lot. He is a nice person with impeccable tastes in wine. :)

  10. Fact says:

    I wouldn't give that guy £5000 to invest. He's a fresher engineer with Daddy's money not a economic advisor in the city… Some people need to chill out

  11. PoloPonies says:

    Standard John's.

  12. Envy culture says:

    Inverse snobbery is so repugnant. Clarke has built a business for himself through knowledge and skill. Reading that he earns five figures as a first year undergrad makes me feel envious too, but attempts to belittle his success by suggesting that he had no hand in it ("Daddy's money… rich, pretentious bastard") smacks of you rationalising your own failure to achieve something similar.

    • queens says:

      Come on. Do you really believe that he started his own hedge fund? And that just anyone could find investors and convinvce them?

      "The idea came to me at school where I was talking about investing with a like minded individual. I explained the strategy to him and he wanted to invest some money with me."

      So there was someone at his school with over $10000 to spare and they just decided to give it to some teenager with no experience. That's bullshit. Never happened.

    • money culture says:

      Isn't more worrying that people are actually envious of him earning that much in uni. Fair play to him if he's found something he likes doing and he get's something out of it. But is that really what we all should be aspiring to? If I'm gonna turn out being the kind of person who cares so much about making money at least give me these couple of years to live in denial.

  13. Fair play says:

    Good for Joe, I don't know him personally at all, but I have to hand it to him for being shrewd with his priviledges, whether they are financial, educational or both.

  14. Important Question says:

    He may make enough money, but does he snort enough coke to be a city boy?

  15. onlooker says:

    I have just reported Joe Clarke to the FSA. I should hope to god he is probably authorised.

    • outlooker says:

      go die

    • agreeing withrep says:

      If you were to do that, you would instantly become the biggest twat-cunt-douchbag-wanker-bastard in the whole Cambridge bubble.

      • FSA says:

        Hi Joe. Just to let you know, you are going to get busted. I hope these "five lawyers" you have working with you are good. We like making examples of people like you. Also, this article can be considered a solicitation… you have now committed two crimes. See you in court.

  16. get over it says:

    People need to jam their hype about Joe. I know him and yea, I'm envious that he can drink nice wine and own an awesome suit and I can't, but give him his due. So what if he did it with daddy's money or not, I know if I had the opportunity to do that I would, and so would many of the self-righteous people getting all butt-hurt about it. Can't blame someone for making the most of what they've been given.

    • PC-GG says:

      "Can't blame someone for making the most of what they've been given. "
      I agree. Haters gonna hate, can't knock a baller.
      BUT this is not the issue.
      It's not what he does but the way he goes about it. Those 'butt-hurt' are likely to be so as on receiving these privileges a Tab article revolving around his 'achievements' is published with his full cooperation.

  17. Axk says:

    I do hope that all of you who criticise Joe realise that you sound exactly like those who criticise Oxbridge graduates…

    How many people refer to us as 'pretentious', 'snobbish', 'elitist', 'privileged' etc? Seriously, you don't need to hate and belittle someone just because he is successful.

    It is obvious that Joe comes from a privileged family, but surely we should congratulate him for having used the advantages he's had in a good way. Being a private school graduate myself ('private', and not 'public', because I was not schooled in the UK), I've met many people with money and connections who have done nothing in their lives.

  18. Lady Gaga says:

    Joe's alright, he can do the Telephone dance.

  19. Never Met Him says:

    Don't know the bloke but I know plenty of 'privileged twats' who don't run a hedge fund. Actually I just know a lot of twats who are neither privileged nor hedge fund managers.

  20. Examiner says:

    "In modern Britain, a privileged background is now as much of a constraint as a poor background". Discuss.

  21. Sinead says:

    I love Joe, especially when he buys me stuff

  22. spilt milk says:

    Just worked it out, even if they sell on the milk at double the profit, they make less than £250 each a term. Working on a 9 week term, that's £27 a week. Is it worth it? Also, compared to the five figure hedge fund dude, this looks extremely unimpressive.
    Oh well, no use crying over spilt milk.

  23. Pensieve says:

    I think it's cool that Joe has taken his privileged upbringing and done something successful with it. But for people saying we should congratulate him: what he's done is successfully increased his own wealth. That's great for him and all, but not really something to give the boy a medal for.

    I find reverse snobbery tiresome, but to say a privileged background is just as much of a constraint as a poor background is not quite comparing like with like. Yes, discrimination is all bad. But it's too easy to use it as a blanket term for PC scaremongering. A cultural backlash to the upper classes doesn't equate to the same kind of socio-economic disadvantage faced by lower classes. It's not reverse snobbery to state that someone who went to a state school would have had fewer opportunities to start a hedge fund at a young age.

    It might be nice, too, if Joe didn't sound so smug. He writes in a very self-congratulatory tone and it actually makes me not envy his success because it seems like it'd make him few friends. This isn't meant in a omg-i-h8-him!!!1111 way; it just made me a little disappointed to read something written by a rich boy coming across like an annoying little rich boy. Doesn't really do anything to lessen the Cambridge/Johns stereotypes.

    Those poor Milk Maids have been rather neglected in these comments. They sound nice; well done them!

  24. Isildur1 says:

    Complete lol at this guy calling himself a hedge fund with £10,000 minimum investment. Not sure anyone other than himself would call what he does a hedge fund. Id be interested to know what his total assets under management are, I'd venture most of middle englands personal retirement trading fund is more than that.

  25. Wish I was Joe says:

    Great catch ladies!

    Incase most of you didn't hate him enough, he also does a cheeky spot of rowing.

    Enjoy

  26. Ken says:

    Yeah, but how much did you lose, Joe?

  27. George Soros says:

    This "hedge fund" is a joke. Real hedge funds manage tens of billions worth in assets and their managers get paid significantly more than five figures. Despite his business indeed being worthy of some applause, his self given title of a "hedge fund manager" is entirely unnecessary and overly pretentious, just like his casual quote about "using delta hedging" for this article.

    In conclusion, you're a cock.

  28. Santa says:

    Respect for the hedge fund, but he should probably have a shave if he can't grow a proper beard. His face just looks dirty.

  29. Wakim says:

    I know Joe

  30. Peach Blossom says:

    Agree. Not a good look.

  31. lj6 says:

    its funny, I've just checked the FSA register and JOSEPH CLARKE (or any derivative thereof) is not present. This means one of two things – either, he doesn't do what he says he does (Tab, you've been duped, or have been complicit in inflating this guys alter-ego), or, number two, he is operating illegally without the proper authorisation and associated regulatory oversight. Either way, this guy is a douche, and if number two, will shortly receive a nasty wake-up call.

    • Your sir... says:

      … are an idiot. Read the article: he has not set up his fund yet – he operates casually for the time being.

      Envy is one of the deadly sin, sir.

      • Perhaps... says:

        I could see how people would be misled, given that the bold caption at the top does say "he runs a hedge fund"

        being a pedantic dick-head is a sin too you know

        • Your sir... says:

          I do not consider it pedantic to point out that the guy himself has already said the fund has not been established.

          And I could see how people could be misled if they only read the headline. But if they don't read the rest of the article, they are not in a position to comment.

          Finally, poor punctuation and inability to construct grammatically valid sentences are not deadly sins, but should be (this IS me being pedantic).

      • popo says:

        Hi Joe. Whether you view it as "casual" or not, the law is clear. From the above it is clear you require authorisation from the FSA; not doing so is a crime, with substantial penalties. See: http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Do/index.shtml

        We are coming for you.

    • You sir... says:

      Are also quite sad.

    • Fund Manager says:

      Well you wouldn't register a hedge fund in the UK! More likely the Cayman Islands or Belize. Tax havens are the way to go.

      • popo says:

        you're an idiot – regardless of where the fund is domiciled, you still require FSA authorisation to operate from or market within the UK. basically, he is going to get fined. i hope he hasn't spent all his "10k earnings"

        • popo buster says:

          Unless….he doesn't? From the dollar figure looks like its an American fund. As long as he doesn't trade whilst in the UK (or register the company in the UK) he isn't performing a wealth management service that the FSA has the juristiction to regulate.

          I'm sure one of his lawyers worked that one out. I'd trust 5 people with degrees working at a law firm specialising in investment law more than a know-it-all undergrad…

          • popo2 says:

            dollars are the standard currency in which to measure AUM, explaining the $10,000 dollar figure. also, since he has obtained funds from UK investors, he is marketing the fund within the UK. meaning it does fall under UK jurisdiction.

            and FYI, I'm an MBA candidate at the Judge – I'm 36 and have spent nearly 13 years working for a large sovereign wealth fund. Perhaps you should look closer to home for the "know-it-all undergrad"..

          • A tab says:

            Perhaps you should read an adult newspaper.

          • popo2 says:

            I've read more papers than you've had school dinners

          • a tab says:

            you've read seven papers?

          • popo2 says:

            yes. one for every member of your family I've shagged. (double points for sisters)

  32. Henry Da Hedgehog says:

    Thanks for reinvesting in my hedges dude. Gettin' proper lush up in here

  33. FB Stalker says:

    Activities: Money. Ergh.

  34. BS? says:

    There is no way he is making 5 figures a year. Not possible. Arbitrage exploits the most minute inefficiencies in price, fractions of 1%. To be making even 10k a year would need huge levels of investment in his "fund".
    And unless he is secretly also a Jedi there is no way in hell he has convinced that many people to invest in a fund run by someone with zero Markets or Investment training/experience.

    He does have a nice suit though.

  35. Richard says:

    Fair play to Joe, I say. While I'm jealous that he can make quite so much quite so young, I really don't understand a word he's saying, and soon make myself feel better by reminding myself that I don't think that sort of stuff would ever make me happy. Then I go back to my Sainsbury's Basics cornflakes and arts degree with a renewed and inflated sense of vigour and self-worth.

  36. Clare says:

    You know what, the Milk Maids have made my world a totally better place.
    Who cares about some guy with more money than the average student but less than impressive in the real world?

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